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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:38 am 
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Yea I remembered I am not in my 20s anymore lol. 600 is plenty for me and I like lighter for the powder.


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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:06 am 
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minus tug hill, mrp etc, a properly tuned and clutched 500 is enough sled for any rider to have a ton of fun, we have just got spoiled with too much power, i almost sold one of my crossfires so i could go try out the new 2015 cat zr 4000rr. its a 500 but it rips up to 80mph quick, thats all ya need really, but the warranty is only 1 year offered right now, ill wait til fall when they are more desperate to move the leftovers, if not ill ride my cf another year. new sleds are too much $$$ anyway. msrp 9299 but down to 7799, thats a lot of sled for that coin, 1000s in suspension alone...


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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:20 am 
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It is not a lot of coin if you compare new sleds to just a couple of years old sled . My 2014 etec is incredible compared to my 09 that in its time was unbelievable in the bumps . There is no comparison in an older sled 4 r more years with the new technology. That said any sledding is fun and it is up to each persons budget/ priorities if it is needed or not . Since 2000 there have been 9 sleds in our coral and only one time did a sled break down .


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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:19 pm 
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I have no doubt that a newer and more sophisticated snowmobile would be a lot smoother on trails that are less than perfectly groomed, and that a high-tech motor would get at least double the gas mileage, but overall I am very happy with my Freestyle Backcountry 550F.

The 550F is plenty powerful enough. I have never been in any situation where I felt I needed more power. It will cruise effortlessly at any speed that is safe, reasonable, and legal on any trail anywhere I have ever been, including Tug Hill. It is a lightweight and simple motor with no computer, injectors, power valves, etc. to break and and none of the problems of liquid cooling such as added weight or a punctured heat exchanger that woud end a ride and leave you stranded real quick. I can ride in any conditions or temperature without cooling problems.

The big track coupled with light weight means that I can almost always ride anywhere I want, including across long patches of slush, without gettig stuck. The smooth power of the 550F as opposed to the rather sharp response of most HO type motors means taht I can ride slow and finess my way through deep snow and up steep slopes when most machines, even Renegades with essentially the same track, will probably spin and get stuck. Because the macine doesn't need snow in the tunnel for cooling it has a short snow flap which means I can back up even in somewhat soft snow with no problems.

I have thought about getting a new snowmobile but I don't see anything I really like either Ski Doo or others, plus the prices are is up there. Can't see spending more on a snowmobile than both of my cares are worth.

For long-distance riding I might like a new Renegade with a 600ACE but they don't make one with the 16" track and narrow a-arms and deep snow skis.

You might say I should get a Tundra LT since I like the deep snow stuff but with the 600ACE it is a 500 pound tank, and 485 even with a 550F. Even the Tundra sport with a 550F weighs close to 450. Sorry but Tundras are not supposed to weight 500 pounds.

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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:40 pm 
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i hear ya john, what i meant was each manus flagship sled is 14-15k, and that is insane for a 8-16 week a year toy IMO. most people need a loan for that coin, and if they ride a lot, even just 2k a year, the sled might not even last the life of the loan let alone outlast it. the new sleds are nice, i just cant fathom how one can spend 14-15k on a winter hobby that depends on mother nature, im not saying you, i mean in general..... that being said i could throw paddles on the 4000 rr and be super happy for a cheaper easier to swallow 8200ish total. so i suppose there are deals out there.

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my sled count is pretty up there, i should make a list so you can laugh at it

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i started riding in 04 or 05, here is my rediculous list...... lol

1987 skii doo formula mx
1998 arctic cat zr 600 efi
1997 arctic cat ext 580 efi
1996 polaris indy classic 500
2003 arctic cat zl 600 efi ss
1991 ski doo safari 377
2002 arctic cat zl 550
2004 arctic cat f7 sno pro
2003 arctic cat f5
1997 polaris supersport 488
2011 polaris iq shift switchback 600 136 ESR (only new one, miss it too) =(
2008 polaris turbo dragon fst
2001 polaris indy super sport 550
1997 polaris indy 500
2006 arctic cat crossfire 7 efi
another 2006 arctic cat crossfire 7 efi
2002 arctic cat z 440 (dads) found it, bought it back, now mine, LOL
there might be more, pretty sickening for 11 years right

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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:31 pm 
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Here is my list, albeit over a much longer period of time.

86 Indy Trail
87 Indy 600
87 Bravo
88 Bravo
88 SnoScoot(still have)
89 Bravo
90 Indy Sport 340
Another 90 Indy Sport 340
91 Indy Lite
94 Supersport 440
95 Supersport 440
98 XC 700
00 500 XC SP 45th Anniv Edition
02 800 XC SP Edge X Blue
04 600 HO SDI Adrenaline
05 F6 EFI "Retro"
10 600 TNT Carb(still have)
13 Pro-R 800 Switchback(still have)

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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:46 pm 
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you have been much more responsible than me lol

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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:47 pm 
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I have to admit that I drool over the new sleds and dream about buying the latest and greatest. Most of the time I end up buying a good, low mileage used sled a few years old. I ride with my kids and like to have a spare sled for friends, so that pretty much means I have a used fleet and upgrade with a newer used one whenever I can find a deal that works. I'm a weekend rider for the most part. This year I started riding in mid January and just finished my last ride for the season yesterday. That is a pretty short season, and this was not a bad year, so it does make it difficult for me to justify spending big money on new.
It's an expensive sport, but I have some fantastic memories riding with my kids and friends. I look forward to the riding season every year.

This thread probably belongs in a different forum now...


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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:30 pm 
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yeah its been derailed, but to an interesting topic, sorry for switching the tracks, lol

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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
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1971 Rupp Sprint S-23 (233cc JLO)
1971 Yamaha SL-292
1972 Moto Ski Mini-SNo (233cc JLO)
1973 Moto Ski F-440 (first engine-foreward, slide suspension sled)
1971 Rupp S-34 (340 CCW)
1982 John Deere Sprintfire 340LC
1988 Polaris Indy Sport 340
1997 Polaris Super Sport 488 (still have, runs great)
2005 Ski Doo MXz Adrenaline 600 HO
2007 Ski Doo Freestyle Back country 550F (still have)
2009 SKi Doo Tundra (267 cc still have, favorite snowmobile)
2009 SKi Doo Freestyle Backcounty (still have)
Vintage machines (operational)
1987 Tundra 250
1987 Tundra LT 250
various Elans
vintage junk (non-operational, hope to restore some day)
1971 Rupp S-23 with BSE440 from my Motoski, the 233 witha broken flywheel is still in the garage)
1971 Rupp S-34
Mini-sno ( not my original one)

The only ones I bought brand new were the 82 John Deere ( as a leftover) and the 07 Backcountry.


Gladhe8er, I envy your SnoScoot

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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:35 pm 
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I'm just as guilty - love talking sleds. :rev:


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the 88 indy sport 340, baby blue and gray she was...... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Friday short ride
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:53 pm 
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I sold my 88 340 Sport a few years ago. I kept the Super Sport. Some times I think I shold have kept the 340 instead. Super Sport Xtra-10 suspension better, 488 faster, handles a little better but the Sport was better off packed trails. I have mainteined the Super Sport, replaced seat cover, front axle bearings, etc. last few years and also a lot of parts/work a year before I got my 07 so basically everything that wore out between 98 and 06 was replaced but I only put 500 miles on it since 07. But by model year it is 'old' so I think it would be hard to get my investment back. Maybe better to keep it for a spare or guest if necessary.

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